Kiner's Korner & The Kult of Mets Personalities

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God help us all

If there is a god… somehow the antichrist world series gets cancelled with an impromptu strike.  If it HAS to happen (much like a root canal or death itself), I hope the Phillies don’t score a single run in four short games with Rollins getting hit in the nuts on the 2nd to last pitch.  Oh the horror…

You know what sucks about tonight… we had another shot at those fuckers and the Phillies are took our ace and our place atop of the division.  Jeff, Met fans just had the underpants yanked up a bit higher tonight… please remember this feeling when you’re bidding on free agents this winter.

You just need to sit back and wonder how it came to this.    If there is a way for two teams to lose, I hope it happens.  Let’s get past the stupid parade and get on to hot stove.  With all due respect to good sportsmanship, the Yanks and Phils can go fuck themselves

Posted By Nik Kolidas

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Nik Kolidas

Game 6 and more!

As you’ve noticed, Kiner’s Korner has been lagging in posts due to the mental disability caused by this hemorrhoid of a postseason.  Unless we get an early holiday gift from the Angles, our two biggest rivals will be meeting in the series to decide who’s going to rub our noses in crap next year.  Gee; I can’t wait to find out who it’s going to be??  

It brings me back to where I was 23 years ago today as Metsblog helpfully reminded me today.   It was the last time Yankee fans felt exactly the same way we do right now. I was between the 3rd base coach and Rich Gedman in the lower boxes thanks to my father’s wad of $20 bills and Shea’s old lax policies toward paying your way to a great seat.  We almost walked out to “beat the traffic” at out number two, but thank goodness I refused to leave.  I remember crying as a kid and telling him “it’s not over”.  I guess sometimes in life you’re right.

Do you REALLY want to come in this game?

haha... the 80's

Thinking back on it; it reminds me of how much fun it can be to be a Mets fan.  Lately, we’re so caught up with our distaste for the atmosphere around the team that we forget what summers at Shea used to feel like.  We’re Met fans because we don’t like it easy and sometimes it ain’t easy.

Best day ever!

 

Odds and ends

There are a bunch of things I’ve wanted to give my 2 cents on the last few weeks and my soap box finally got fixed.

Aroldis Chapman – Ok, so logic dictates you don’t spend 60 million dollars on an unproven pitcher when you have a thousand needs on your team.  That being said, our buddies in Queens never outbid anyone on a player other teams want and maybe this is the time we show the baseball world who their daddy is.   Sometimes a team needs to make a statement that’s larger than the actual player and this is possibly it.  If the fan base knows there’s this phenom coming up, it’ll help energize us and give the team some good press for a change.  It’s a little illogical from a roster perspective, but I say nail this guy fast and start stepping on the Yankee’s parade.  It’s not my money to spend, but in a way it is.    If Chapman is pitching, I might go to Citi and watch it.

John Lackey – I think it’s insane to give John Lackey all that money when you have the prospects to trade for Roy Halladay if you really wanted to.  If Lackey wants to sign for something modest, then great, but to overpay for a #2 starter who takes a month off every year is unsettling.  I’d sell Mr. Met himself to get Halladay. 

 

 

Matt Holliday-  Prince Fielder?  I’m sorry; I thought you said Prince Fielder.  Ok, we don’t have the ability to get both Fielder and Halladay, so assuming that can’t be done, this isn’t a terrible option.  A lot of people thought mark Teixeira & Beltran would be terrible in NY and both those thoughts were misguided.  That being said, Fielder would be a hero here and if the Wilpons really wanted to step up, they’d find a way get us one of those two players and then buy the 2nd best version of the other.

Backman &  The Teufel Shuffle Welcome back boys!  It’s funny how even 23 years later the Mets still can’t help but pin them against each other.  Somewhere, Davey is smiling. John Stearns being back is actually what makes me the happiest as I’d love to see him manage the team someday.  Mookie; well, I loved ya Mook and then you went and wore a Cardinals hat in the playoffs.  I know your son played for them for 6 days, but did you need the outfit buddy?  Go F yourself.

Olle Perez hater Metstradamus wants Brian Schneider back I respect your opinion big guy, but although you make some valid points; I have to disagree.  This team needs less negative energy and Brian has 1982 Met leaking from every fiber of his being.  I don’t know where the answer lies, but I know it isn’t in Schneider’s bat.   I do love your “Who would you like to see put in a weather balloon to float away?” poll.

Marty Noble and the Media There’s this feeling that the Mets have fallen below the Marlins and Braves and there is nothing Omar can do in the off-season the fix things.  What a bunch of crap that is. I’m sick of the media dumping on this team like it’s a 2nd division franchise.  I realize it’s been a 3 ring circus the last few months, but on opening day 5 out of the 9 starters will be former All Stars in their prime and that’s without making a move.    Work must be done, but this team is in no way irrelevant in 2010.

Kiner’s Korner- We have a few interviews coming up and an end of the season round up… so stay tuned.  Same bat time – same bat channel!

Posted By Nik Kolidas

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Nik Kolidas

KinersKorner Sits with Adam Rubin of the NY Daily News

Adam Rubin of the NY Daily News was good enough to join us on the KinersKorner. We look back at 2009 and ahead to 2010 for the Amazins.

Thanks Adam for speaking with us at the Korner. It has been a long and tumultuous season for you and the Mets, and I hope we can take this opportunity for some perspective.

rubin

Obviously injuries were an issue this season. The Mets are staying with the same medical staff and trainers, but are talking up “better communication and processes” as a way to correct the problem. Are they doing too little?

Adam Rubin: I would suggest that the organization’s culture is the biggest issue, and that can be changed without personnel alterations. Players spoke highly of the Hospital for Special Surgery doctors, but almost uniformly said that they were pushed to play though injuries that would have landed them on the DL had they been with other organizations. Case in point: J.J. Putz was told by Dr. David Altchek he needed to have a bone spur removed from his elbow. The Mets advocated a cortisone shot. Putz had the injection, struggled for a month, then needed the procedure anyway. The two players who were treated conservatively —Ryan Church and David Wright— both put the negative physical effects behind them when they returned from the DL. Church was almost placed on the DL by accident, because Carlos Beltran had needed a cortisone shot at the time and Church was deactivated as a way to get another outfielder onto the roster. Public pressure to put Wright on the DL after his concussion perhaps influenced that sound decision.

injured-mr-met

What in your opinion was the turning point from this season being a disappointing injury-plagued season to an embarrassing 70-win season?

Adam Rubin: I’m not sure I can define one moment. In a three-week stretch in July the Mets dropped from one game to 10 games behind the Phillies.

The Mets talk about accountability, yet retained the GM, manager, and most of the coaching staff. Do they realize how this rings hollow to the fan base, and do you have any idea why they’re giving this group another chance?

Adam Rubin: I don’t see how returning substantially the same staff and roster will result in excitement among the fan base, but 2010 clearly is make of break for Omar Minaya and Jerry Manuel, so the change may be coming soon.

What? Me Worry?

What? Me Worry?

How much should we read into the Mets talking to JP Ricciardi, Kevin Towers and Wally Backman? From the outside looking in, it almost appears like the Wilpons are forcing Omar and Manuel to hire eventual replacements to make for an easier transition.

Adam Rubin: Clearly those people would be capable of stepping into the GM or manager’s role if someone were fired next season, so perhaps there’s merit to what you’re suggesting. However, Minaya’s closest advisers are rapidly disappearing—Tony Bernazard (fired), Sandy Johnson (likely retiring), Ramon Pena (dismissed) — so why not hire competent people? Backman’s credentials are impeccable, and I’m sure if he’s assigned to Binghamton that would be a boon to the Double-A club’s marketability, which would be a nice gesture after this year’s woeful season there.

Good Wally

Good Wally

Bad Wally

Bad Wally

The Mets fired Tony Bernazard and several high-ranking members of the minor league front office and managerial staff. Are you encouraged or discouraged by the moves made so far?

Adam Rubin: I can’t really say either. I can’t say there’s been any surprise. Mako Oliveras, the Double-A manager, was brought into the organization by Tony Bernazard. The reviews of Julio Franco as a manager were poor. One scout asked me, “What is he teaching them—how to style after they hit a ball?”

Let’s move away from off the field and talk a little bit about the players and personnel on it.

Wright had a disappointing power season. Should Met fans believe this is an off year for the young star or is he going to not be the power star he showed the previous seasons?

Adam Rubin: He may not reach 29 homers, his average of the previous four seasons, regularly again, but I expect improve power numbers next season. He was largely unprotected in the lineup and did get away from pulling balls, even though a lot of his power is to right-center. He and Jeff Francoeur will join Howard Johnson in Florida for a couple of weeks this offseason to try to rediscover their swings. I also believe Wright felt a lot of pressure to carry the team, which didn’t help. And the ballpark was a factor more so with Wright than other players because of the stark differences between Shea Stadium and Citi Field in right-center. I don’t know what the final number was, but hittrackeronline.com at one point determined Wright was deprived of eight homers by the new dimensions.

Make way for Dark Helmet!

Make way for Dark Helmet!

Jerry had to work with a AAA squad essentially, but the fundamentals of this team was severely lacking. How much blame should be attributed to jerry and his coaches, and should the Mets fans expect better or more of the same?

It's tough being a Met, but it's not that bad!

It's tough being a Met, but it's not that bad!

Adam Rubin: Lou Piniella had no success instilling baseball fundamentals in Angel Pagan either and eventually gave up, so it’s primarily on the players. While I wouldn’t advocate Jerry Manuel upstaging players, I would have preferred him being more punitive with playing time though after transgressions.

Are the Mets thinking depth or star power when planning this offseason? Most fans doubt they have the resources for both.

Adam Rubin: I don’t think the Mets are particularly fixable this winter. Any team with Jose Reyes (provided he’s healthy), Carlos Beltran, Johan Santana, David Wright and Francisco Rodriguez won’t be abysmal. However, the Mets should have the third or fourth best rotation in the NL East next year, depending on how you evaluate them versus the Marlins.

There is about a net of $30 million coming off the payroll, and I firmly believe the payroll will go down slightly this winter. How can it not with fewer tickets undoubtedly being sold this winter? Jeff Wilpon only maintained he would continue to have one of the game’s highest payrolls. You can shave $20 million off the payroll and that would still be true.

I think Daniel Murphy will be the first baseman, and the Mets will seek a power-hitting left fielder as well as a replacement at catcher for Brian Schneider—maybe Bengie Molina. I just don’t see the Mets outbidding teams for Matt Holliday or Jason Bay.

The Mets also will need an eighth-inning reliever and a second lefthander for the bullpen. Obviously, a top-tier starting pitcher would be beneficial to avoid the same reliance on Mike Pelfrey, Oliver Perez and John Maine.

Can all that be achieved if the Mets only spend $15-20 million on free agency? No way.

And I don’t foresee much of a farm impact in 2010. Jenrry Mejia could be a bullpen factor, but I would hesitate to predict that. And Ike Davis getting promoted midseason would mean Murphy is faltering.

Pelfrey may have been the most disappointing performer this past season. Was it Verducci syndrome? Bad defense? Lack of control? Lack of secondary pitches? No one seems to have an answer. Where do the Mets stand with Pelfrey and where should they?

Adam Rubin: I don’t think there was an innings-count effect, which is what the Verducci Effect says. I think it’s a combination of confidence and control. 2010 will be big in defining what type of career Pelfrey will have. Jerry Manuel tells Pelfrey his peers are pitchers such as Matt Cain. We’ll see.

Fans of yours are familiar with your work with Baseball America and know how knowledgeable you are of the farm. What prospects that maybe some fans do not know about should we keep an eye on?

Adam Rubin: Lefthander Juan Urbina, Ugeuth’s son, hasn’t thrown a pitch yet in a professional game but everyone is incredibly high on him. The biggest sleeper may be righthander Kyle Allen. Mike Antonini will get a look in spring training as a potential lefthander for the major-league pen.

Once again thank you for your time and I hope you have an enjoyable offseason.

adam rubin

Posted by Robert Z

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Robert Z

Collapse: It’s Not a Mets Exclusive

With the Tigers loss to the Twins in a One-Game playoff the Tigers became the first team in MLB history to lose a playoff spot with a 3 game lead and 4 games left to play.

So debate Korner Sitters, what’s worse: 7 games with 17 to play or 3 games with 4 to play?

Posted by Robert Z

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Robert Z

“Omar and Jerry must step up”

What a crock of shit.  If I’ve learned anything in life it’s that actions speak louder than words.  What have they BEEN doing so far?  He is “demanding better and excepting better”… how do you expect better from the same product and demand better from the same people? When I bite into an apple… I taste apple each and every time.

 Jeff said the Mets will have “ONE OF THE highest payrolls in baseball”.  As a NYC franchise with a new ballpark, I expect them to be the SECOND HIGHEST payroll across the board.  He also takes responsibility for the lack of communication regarding injuries to the media.  Who gives a rat’s ass what the media knows?  I’m only concerned about the amount of time players spend on the field.  Basically the same muscles and docs are coming back next year.  Also, the LAST thing this team needs is more Jeff Wilpon being involved.  This team will never get it. The same mushy rhetoric we hear each winter was delivered with contrived passion. Jeff will never understand that we don’t need to hear that he’s hurt by this year… we want to SEE how hurt he is through actions and see that he’s learned from the experience. Blind faith that the odds won’t strike again is his answer.

 Unacceptable.

How do you retain the same core staff after the team gave up?  They clearly weren’t able to lead the team to a respectable finish after devastating injuries.  Really… protect Hojo and let each and every one of them (Omar included) go. Also, slick bringing back Backman, but is that a bone that they thing will keep the fans happy? I guess he’ll coach Gerald Williams in AAA?

So far not so good.  I hope to see something unexpected this winter or it’s going to be forever Groundhog Day in Flushing.  Jeff gave a very weak “maybe” when he talked about free agent signings.

By the way… for those of you who watched the SNY broadcast, how much of a kiss ass is  Bobby Ojeda and his sidekick?  Chris Carlin did have some balls to ask Wilpon if he’s letting Jerry & Omar of the hook by merely reshuffling the deck and Jeff said they’re “on the hook”  What does that mean Mr. Wilpon? They weren’t on any hooks at 90 losses? If not, what does this “hook” amount to? 

Sad.

Posted By Nik Kolidas

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Nik Kolidas

Mets Announce Coaching Comings & Goings: Jerry Stays – Backman Back?!?

The Mets, learning possibly from past mistakes when they let the coaches and managers hang in the wind too long, announced who is staying and going in Jerry’s staff. While not announcing Jerry saying too bluntly, by using the term “Jerry’s staff” it is safe to assume he’s going to have a chance to prove that this year’s faults can be corrected. This is per Metsblog.com.

Jerry Manuel, Hojo, and surprisingly Dan Warthen and Razor Shines have been retained. Razor Shines though will probably be reassigned away from 3B, possibly to 1B coach or bench coach. Sandy Alomar Sr. and Luis Alicea will not be returning. I for one wonder if Sandy Alomar Sr. is retiring, and not fired, since the Mets announced that his son Sandy Alomar Jr and Razor Shines will be reassigned.

I cannot say I’m happy about these moves, although it is interesting that Alomar, one of the holdovers of the Willie Randolph regime, is now gone. The Mets fielding and baserunning woes went beyond injuries, and Jerry and Razor Shines are keys to those areas. The Mets also led the league in walks by a wide margin, which falls on Warthen. This is not a way to indicate to the fan base that corrections are being made, and the only way to prove otherwise won’t be accomplished until 2010. Hopefully that’s not too late.

Update: John Heyman of SI tweets that Wally Backman will be returning to the Mets to manage in the minors. The former 86′er was a coaching candidate before he lied on his resume and has had numerous off the field incidents, but is regarded as a strong coaching mind and a fiery manager in the Billy Martin mold. If true that Backman road to recovery will run through the minors look for reports that he may be Manuel’s replacement should the Mets falter next year early.

Posted by Robert Z

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Robert Z

C’mon Jerry… Do it! Do it!

Don’t you get the feeling (maybe it’s wishful thinking) that Jerry is going to resign today?  Man I hope so….

 

Posted By Nik Kolidas

Filed under: New York Mets 2009-2010, Nik Kolidas

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